[Folk Culture] An Interview with VIPPER! [Paper] (30, permasaged)

1 Name: Folklorist!rLm9RhTEUQ : 2010-11-29 09:57 [Del]

Hello, VIPPER!

Those of you that read the posts in the bump thread should remember a few posts talking about a folk studies project covering the anonymous culture of SAoVQ.

If not, here is an overview: I am doing a project observing the various folk aspects of SAoVQ; lore, traditions, etc.

Well, this thread is for the purpose of me asking questions relating to the folk culture of the AREA, and asking VIPPER for their input.

My first question: Why do you feel anonymity is important on this board?

2 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 10:27 [Del]

Because being a VIPPER is one's identity here.

3 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 10:32 [Del]

Attention-whore-ism is rampant throughout the rest of the internet. More than that,the focus of a discussion board is to discuss, not flaunt some imagined form of status, rank, or whatever. In a sense, anonymity almost creates a sense of egalitarianism.

By the way, have you read Shii's treatise on anonymity?

4 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 10:47 [Del]

>>3 Some Shii's writing is alright. In practice, a small anonymous forum runs as well as any other small forum; a large anonymous forum runs as well as any other large forum.

5 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 11:18 [Del]

> Why do you feel anonymity is important on this board?

You shouldn't start by assuming we feel that way!
In fact, you don't feel that way yourself: you chose to use a limited use handle to make it more convenient to identify who's talking.
There are a few overlapping groups of users who know each other through stable identities : the IRC channel, the Steam group, the Minecraft server, some guys on Twitter, the creative projects. The messageboard is no longer all of SAoVQ. But of course, there are also people who choose not to interact with VIPPER with an identity, at all.

I think not using names unnecessarily is a cultural norm we do not challenge because we like the side effects. It's a pressure-free environment. Not a license to be a bad poster, just giving you the chance to say things, disown them immediately, and forget you said them.
See for example http://www.secretareaofvipquality.net/saovq/kareha.pl/1286213227/487 . Or just re-read a 2 years old thread where you made a lot of posts. Do you remember with perfect accuracy which posts are yours? It's hard when there isn't a little picture reminding you of who said what.

6 Name: Folklorist!rLm9RhTEUQ : 2010-11-29 11:36 [Del]

>>5
Interesting point, VIPPER.

I actually meant to address this; even though users (such as myself in this thread) sometimes use a monicker or a tripcode, it generally is only in one thread. I, for one, will never use this tripcode outside of this thread, unless I'm being absent minded and forget to clear the name field. The only exceptions that come to mind are some of the artists on the VIPTRONIC projects and (・з・).

The users that use Minecraft (I used to play on the SAoVQ server, however, I haven't touched it in a while) probably only use that name in Minecraft; they don't return to the board and use that as their posting name. Even further, some people on Minecraft were simply named VIPPER, or if it was already claimed a simple variation of VIPPER.

I don't play PC games, so I don't use Steam, and I never was into IRC very much so I've never used the channel.

I completely agree with what you said about the pressure-free environment, but I agree with >>3 in that anonymity helps to shift focus from identity to the post's content; since there is no other way to judge an anonymous user's post (with their being no username, no avatar, no signature, no "date-joined", no post count), it must be judged on its content and content alone.

7 Name: Folklorist!rLm9RhTEUQ : 2010-11-29 11:55 [Del]

Allow me to add this to my previous post:

How does VIPPER define the concept of "VIP Quality?" What makes something QUALITY and what makes something... "unVIP", if you will?

8 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 12:22 [Del]

Why don't you come join us on the IRC?

#saovq on Rizon.

9 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 13:03 [Del]

I'm feeling a shift in the wording in which VIPPERS are using the word VIPPER to communicate among themselves. The meaning of the word isn't being bastardized, but I'm always seeing it used as the singular 'VIPPER'. "What does VIPPER think, how does Vipper..." Why must this be so? The phrasing of "A VIPPER" or similar denotes a specific poster, such as say >>5-san. Better yet, why not alter the diction to incorporate VIPPERS, such as "How do VIPPERS define VIP QUALITY?" Or if directed at a singular poster, "How do you/this VIPPER/>>1 define VIP QUALITY?".

Perhaps I'm being nagged by the lack of clarity, or the wording doesn't appeal to me. I am but one VIPPER among VIPPERS, but there is a difference between the two words. If you wish to continue with the "What does _______ [verb]" model, please try to replace VIPPER with SAOVQ at minimum.


Thank You!


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10 Name: Folklorist!rLm9RhTEUQ : 2010-11-29 13:34 [Del]

>>9
I've always seen the two used interchangeably; VIPPER can refer to one or the whole. Just because it doesn't end in "s" doesn't mean it can't be a plural word!

And besides, VIPPER is a collective term. Collectivity, at least in my opinion, is important to SAoVQ.

http://www.secretareaofvipquality.net/saovq/kareha.pl/1286213227/488

And to others, as well!

11 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 14:25 [Del]

I like being VIPPER because it makes me feel like part of a collective lifeform.
No wait, i am part of a collective lifeform.

12 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 15:53 [Del]

This thread needs to think less, and feel more

13 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 17:09 [Del]

>>7
When you see something that is VIP, you will know immediately. It's a feeling you get deep in your heart. You should never have to ask yourself "Is this VIP?" If you do, then it's not VIP QUALITY.

14 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-29 18:52 [Del]

Let's all be polite and sage this thread~

15 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 03:03 [Del]

I'm so gonna be polite this time!

16 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 07:45 [Del]

VIP is the feeling of becoming one with the internet itself

17 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 08:29 [Del]

VIP is the obscene masquerading as ordinary

18 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 09:44 [Del]

As this thread is all metadiscussion we should sage

19 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 11:25 [Del]

>>18
As if tablecat isn't.

20 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 12:20 [Del]

Metadiscussion is like a drug that you can get from Daddy Cool in a dark corner of SAoVQ if you pay him enough. We all recognize that it's bad news, but some give in to temptation and get addicted.

21 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 12:58 [Del]

>>20
Yep

22 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 13:12 [Del]

I can stop talking any time I want

23 Name: VIPPER : 2010-11-30 13:44 [Del]

I've always been worried that if I think too much about SAoVQ then it will go away.

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25 Name: VIPPER : 2010-12-01 00:13 [Del]

>>23
I think you already know VIPPER's stance on thinking.

26 Name: VIPPER : 2010-12-01 01:25 [Del]

You should just talk about table cat and how awesome he is.

Also, make sure to write about the table and it's pristine quality that makes the table shine brighter than any other table under the moonlight.

And Don't forget to talk about the COOL FREE RINGTONES and Bible Black!

27 Name: VIPPER : 2010-12-01 02:12 [Del]

From what I understand, tanasinn is something best avoided. So why that thing I'm too drink about...

28 Name: VIPPER : 2010-12-01 09:59 [Del]

Stop bumping this eyesore of a thread.
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29 Name: VIPPER : 2010-12-01 15:18 [Del]

Hey everyone, thanks for answering my questions so far!

I am a lazy college student, and so this is getting finished at a lazy college student's pace, I'm afraid...

And to each VIPPER who disapproves of this thread, I'm sorry, and I understand.

Although, even those posts profaning this project actually help me in the long run, so thanks for participating!

I would just like to say that the paper itself is working much more smoothly than the emulated interview, and I only did it because it was a requirement for the assignment, so I'm not taking it too seriously... in fact, I may not even need to ask another question. If that is the case, this thread may peacefully sink to the bottom of SAoVQ to never be heard from again.

I just want to pass my course (;´・ω・)

30 Name: VIPPER : 2010-12-04 08:17 [Del]

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