>valid criticism

If you think criticism that consists of complaining about the length and the entire composition of the piece is valid, I question your definition of criticism. If one is going to criticize something in a way where you won't get called out for it, one would give better reasons than that. For example, a criticism that would be valid about this piece that fits with your opinionated statements is that the piece could have had the same effect if it were only 10 minutes long, and that Ship Going Down may have gotten overzealous with taking Reich's model to the extremes, since the middle droning part actually doesn't lend much to the original purpose of phase music like this. I probably would've agreed with you on those points.

Regardless, let's not get into a full-out debate about avant-garde music and get back to the VIP QUALITY, hm? The discussion about the non-VIPtronic album has long since ended in this thread and discussion should resume about the third VIPtronic album.